Thursday, May 15, 2014

I Was Just There Last Night

Submitted by Bill Sayers, 9th ID 3rd/60th 

This story came to me anonymously via e-mail, the author, a fellow Vietnam Veteran. After reading his story, I felt compelled to share this with you. If you didn't participate in the Vietnam War, this will give you some insight into how our minds work. He writes: A couple of years ago someone asked me if I still thought about Vietnam. I nearly laughed in their face. How do you stop thinking about it? Every day for the past forty years, I wake up with it- I go to bed with it. This was my response:

"Yeah, I think about it. I can't stop thinking about it. I never will. But, I've also learned to live with it. I'm comfortable with the memories. I've learned to stop trying to forget and learned to embrace it. It just doesn't scare me anymore."

A lot of my "brothers" haven't been so lucky. For them the memories are too painful, their sense of loss too great. My sister told me of a friend she has whose husband was in the Nam. She asks this guy when he was there. Here's what he said, "Just last night." It took my sister a while to figure out what he was talking about. Just Last Night. Yeah, I was in the Nam. When? Just last night, before I went to sleep, on my way to work this morning, and over my lunch hour. Yeah, I was there

My sister says I'm not the same brother who went to Vietnam. My wife says I won't let people get close to me, not even her. They are probably both right. Ask a vet about making friends in Nam. It was risky. Why? Because we were in the business of death, and death was with us all the time. It wasn't the death of, "If I die before I wake." This was the real thing. The kind boys scream for their mothers. The kind that lingers in your mind and becomes more real each time you cheat it. You don't want to make a lot of friends when the possibility of dying is that real, that close. When you do, friends become a liability.

A guy named Bob Flanigan was my friend. Bob Flanigan is dead. I put him in a body bag one sunny day, April 29, 1969. We'd been talking, only a few minutes before he was shot, about what we were going to do when we got back to the world. Now, this was a guy who had come in country the same time as me. A guy who was loveable and generous. He had blue eyes and sandy blond hair. When he talked, it was with a soft drawl. I loved this guy like the brother I never had. But, I screwed up. I got too close to him. I broke one of the unwritten rules of war.  DON'T GET CLOSE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO DIE. You hear vets use the term "buddy" when they refer to a guy they spent the war with. "Me and this buddy of mine."

Friend sounds too intimate, doesn't it? "Friend" calls up images of being close. If he's a friend, then you are going to be hurt if he dies, and war hurts enough without adding to the pain. Get close; get hurt. It's as simple as that. In war you learn to keep people at that distance my wife talks about. You become good at it, that forty years after the war, you still do it without thinking. You won't allow yourself to be vulnerable again.

My wife knows two people who can get into the soft spots inside me-my daughters. I know it bothers her that they can do this. It's not that I don't love my wife. I do. She's put up with a lot from me. She'll tell you that when she signed for better or worse, she had no idea there was going to be so much of the latter. But with my daughters it's different. My girls are mine. They'll always be my kids. Not marriage, not distance, not even death can change that. They are something on this earth that can never be taken away from me. I belong to them. Nothing can change that. I can have an ex-wife; but my girls can never have an ex-father. There's the difference. I can still see the faces, though they all seem to have the same eyes. When I think of us, I always see a line of "dirty grunts" sitting on a paddy dike. We're caught in the first gray silver between darkness and light. That first moment when we know we've survived another night, and the business of staying alive for one more day is about to begin. There was so much hope in that brief space of time. It's what we used to pray for. "One more day, God. One more day."

And I can hear our conversations as if they'd only just been spoken I still hear the way we sounded. The hard cynical jokes, our morbid senses of humor. We were scared to death of dying, and tried our best not to show it.

I recall the smells, too. Like the way cordite hangs on the air after a fire-fight. Or the pungent odor of rice paddy mud. So different from the black dirt of Iowa. The mud of Nam smells ancient, somehow. Like it's always been there. And I'll never forget the way blood smells, sticky and drying on my hands. I spent a long night that way once. The memory isn't going anywhere.

I remember how the night jungle appears almost dreamlike as pilot of a Cessna buzzes overhead, dropping parachute flares until morning. That artificial sun would flicker and make shadows run through the jungle. It was worse than not being able to see what was out there sometimes. I remember once looking at the man next to me as a flare floated overhead. The shadows around his eyes were so deep that it looked like his eyes were gone. I reached over and touched him on the arm; without looking at me he touched my hand. "I know man. I know." That's what he said. It was a human moment. Two guys a long way from home and scared to death.

God, I loved those guys. I hurt every time one of them died. We all did. Despite our posturing. Despite our desire to stay disconnected, we couldn't help ourselves. I know why Tim O' Brien writes his stories. I know what gives Bruce Weigle the words to create poems so honest I cry at their horrible beauty. It's love. Love for those guys we shared the experience with.

We did our jobs like good soldiers, and we tried our best not to become as hard as our surroundings. You want to know what is frightening. It's a nineteen-year-old-boy who's had a sip of that power over life and death that war gives you. It's a boy who, despite all the things he's been taught, knows that he likes it. It's a nineteen-year-old who's just lost a friend, and is angry and scared and, determined that, "some*@#*s gonna pay". To this day, the thought of that boy can wake me from a sound sleep and leave me staring at the ceiling.

As I write this, I have a picture in front of me. It's of two young men. On their laps are tablets. One is smoking a cigarette. Both stare without expression at the camera. They're writing letters. Staying in touch with places they rather be. Places and people they hope to see again. The picture shares space in a frame with one of my wife. She doesn't mind. She knows she's been included in special company. She knows I'll always love those guys who shared that part of my life, a part she never can. And she understands how I feel about the ones I know are out there yet. The ones who still answer the question, "When were you in Vietnam?"

"Hey, man. I was there just last night."

So was I. How about the rest of you vets-hits home doesn't it!

Share this article with others so they understand why many of today's veteran's behave the way they do be it Vietnam or other conflicts, this is a common thread shared by all.


AUTHORS NOTE:  This statement was sent to me by Mike Paluda who was a friend of Bob Olson and who is quoted in the chapter titled “Warrior.” It is from a soldier who served in the 9th Infantry Division which operated in the Mekong Delta.
Mike stays in touch with a lot of Army guys from the Vietnam War, and I thought that these thoughtful and powerful comments should be passed on.

Rolland Kidder 



Sunday, May 11, 2014

A Letter from Mike Morris, GMG 3


AUTHOR'S NOTE:  In Chapter 17, Mike Morris vividly remembers how Chief Tozer died. For his courageous action that night, we put Mike’s name in for the Silver Star. It was an honor earned and awarded. Mike is now retired from a life-long job as a fireman in Portland, Oregon.

Prior to publishing the book, I sent my recollections of that night to Mike for his review. He made some important comments and filled in the details on what happened on PBR #725 after it was hit on the Vinh Te Canal. His comments on the published book are set forth below. 
ROLLAND KIDDER

Book Review: Backtracking in Brown Water


In 1966 I joined the U.S. Navy.  After stints on an ammunition ship and fleet oiler, I was assigned to a PBR (patrol boat river) Division in Viet Nam.  On November 20, 1969, while on ambush on the Vinh Te Canal in the Delta region, my boat was hit by three B-40 rockets and automatic weapons gun fire.  Eldon Tozer (patrol officer) was killed.  Two Vietnamese and three U.S. sailors, including me, were seriously wounded.  After the attack, I was the only one able to drive the boat back to base camp and, because of this, I wasn't able to help any of the wounded.  After being hospitalized for several weeks, I returned to the patrol boat division and was back on the canal.  My tour finished six months later, and I left the Navy as a gunner's mate 3rd class.

I returned to my home, Portland, Oregon, and resumed civilian life.  In 1974, I joined the Portland Fire Bureau, and served for 39 years on the line as a fireman.  Now retired, I enjoy a wonderful life with my wife, four children, and two grandchildren. 

Rolly Kidder's book brought back a lot of memories for me –some I thought I had tucked away deep into the recesses of my mind.  Most of the time, I know I have a good handle on my years in the Navy.  I did the job I was assigned, and did it to the best of my ability.  Once in awhile, though, a memory will surface in a bad dream that wakes me at night.

Thank you,  Rolly, for not only writing about your experiences, but following up with the families whose lives were so profoundly affected by the events described in your book.  I recommend this book to all who are interested in our war and the U.S. Navy.

Mike Morris
GMG 3 (Gunner's Mate Guns Petty Officer 3rd Class)
River Division 535
September 1966-June 1970.


Thursday, May 8, 2014

Lunch at the Mekong Restaurant

AUTHOR'S NOTE:  When people ask me to try and sum up what the book is about,  I usually refer them to Mike Connolly’s statement which is printed, in part, on the back cover.   Mike was our tactical commander on the Vinh Te Canal in 1969, and he also became a friend.   However, I had not spoken with him since the war… until I got involved in writing this book.

I knew that to complete the story about Jim Rost, I needed to seek Mike out.   I found him living in Lynchburg, VA and arranged to meet him one day in Richmond for lunch.  Much of what we talked about that day is now in chapter 11, “Engineer.”  The place that Mike suggested we meet couldn’t have had a better name—it served Vietnamese food and was called “The Mekong Restaurant.”

I hope that his comments in the book and in this review, help the reader better understand what my goals and aspirations were when I undertook the writing of it.

Rolland Kidder


A Review of Backtracking in Brown Water  
In Backtracking, Rolly Kidder has delivered a brilliant chronicle of a part of the Vietnam conflict with which many may not be familiar. His own tour of duty on the rivers of Vietnam brought him in contact with two sailors and one soldier who would lose their lives there. Forty years later, he revisited Vietnam and began to track down the families of the three men, and evaluate the impact of the loss on those families.
For anyone who served in the Delta, this account will evoke a full spectrum of memories. For those who did not serve there, it presents a superb study of the many facets of the Army and Navy activity in 1969 and 1970. Using his journal entries of the period and interviews with fellow combatants, he builds a compelling picture of what was happening in the Vietnam Delta. His follow-up visit to Vietnam forty years later is deftly presented without taint – neither remorse nor bias. 
Kidder’s recounting of his visits with the families of the three servicemen is a poignant reminder of the continuing grief, as well as pride, extant amongst many and is a fitting memorial to the Army and Riverine heroes and an honor to those who mourn them.
Captain M.B. Connolly, USN (retired)   
Commander, River Assault Division 132 / River Assault Squadron 13, 1969-70


Saturday, April 19, 2014

Kidder Speaks at the Robert H. Jackson Center Book Signing




Vignettes from a March 27, 2014 interview with Rolly Kidder on his new book "Backtracking in Brown Water".  A personal odyssey of retracing life on Mekong Delta River Patrols. The book signing and interview occurred at the Robert H. Jackson Center in Jamestown N.Y.






Thursday, April 3, 2014

PODCAST: Fred Dicker / Capital District Talk Radio

Long time New York Post columnist Fred Dicker interviewed Rolly Kidder on Capital District Talk Radio 1300AM out of Albany, NY on Friday, April 4th.

PODCAST LINK BELOW:  The interview is in the second half of the hour, fast forward to the 29th minute to begin.  A lively conversation about Rolly's recent book as well as his perspectives on modern day NYS Energy Policy and the political climate in Albany...


Wednesday, April 2, 2014

PODCAST: CONNECTIONS with EVAN DAWSON

Below is a recording of a live interview with Rolly from April 1st, 2014 on NPR station WXXI am1370 in Rochester, NY.  It's from the CONNECTIONS with EVAN DAWSON radio talk show and in it they discuss the backstory of Kidder's latest book "Backtracking in Brown Water" as well as some of the revelations that were born from the personal research and relationships that he experienced along the way.  This is a good overview of the book with some very interesting commentary.




By the way, Evan's talk show airs Monday - Friday from 12-2pm. You can listen live online at: http://player.nprstations.org/wxxi/#stream/wxxi

Monday, March 31, 2014

Comments from Sandra Thompson, Eldon Tozer's Niece

It was in the nineties when I had access to a computer that I started searching for someone who knew my uncle Eldon Tozer. Someone who could fill me in with some details about the night he died and what his role was in the war. I connected with Butch Jarvinen and Gary Holmes and they were able to give me some information but I still wanted to know more.

Forty five years have passed since Uncle Eldon's death. Rolland Kidder has answered so many of my questions in his book "Backtracking in Brown Water". He has helped me learn what everyday life was like for Uncle Eldon and what role he played in the war. There were times in the book that I felt like I was in Vietnam. I know now that without a shadow of doubt that Uncle Eldon was hoping to help give the people of Vietnam a better and safer life.

A quote from the book. "There is a knowledge or experience gap between what is going on at home, and what is happening in combat. The world between the soldier and his family proffers silence."

For me Rolland Kidder has broken that silence. I will read the book a second time. Thank you Rolland for all your efforts in keeping Uncle Eldon's memory alive.

Sandra Thompson

LISTEN LIVE: Evan Dawson interviews Rolly Kidder on NPR "CONNECTIONS"

Tuesday, April 1st @ 1pm on NPR station WXXI AM1370 out of Rochester, NY.  Listen to the LIVE STREAM here: www.wxxi.org/listen.  


Evan is an accomplished author, a noted wine industry expert, and a recent TV anchor.  He is also very knowledgable - or at least has an articulate point of view - on most any topic that crosses his desk. He also happens to be family, so this interview is destined to be a lively, open discussion on Rolly's new book "Backtracking in Brown Water" among any other tangents that may arise.  Tune in!  We will post a podcast link here after the fact if you weren't able to listen live.





Tuesday, March 25, 2014

Harry Hahn Book Review - RivRon 13

Rolland: I just finished your book last night. I would have finished it sooner, if I had not been so busy travelling on business. Retirement for me is less than a year away! If you remember, we were in contact with me when you were writing your book. I was a radioman with Mike Connolly in RivDiv 13. Also a friend, til this day, of Doc Rather. Doc and I just had breakfast last Sunday morning as all of us "boat guys" in the Chicago area do once a month.

It might interest you that about every four years we take a PBR that is sitting in the Military Museum near me out of storage and run it on lake Marie. We had a great time doing it a couple years ago. I had 150 PBR sailors and their families on board during multiple trips when I gave them rides that June day.

I just wanted to say that you did a great job of capturing the story of what we did in Nam, the mix of history of that country, and the back stories of the people that were KIA you came in contact with. Thanks for doing such a great job. I had my sister that was most interested in what I did in Vietnam read the book and she said that, for once, she understood what I did and what I went through. I have made an attempt over the years to start a book and tell the story of what we did from a Monitor sailor's perspective. Never finished it. I am glad you got to tell your story and we appreciate it!

Harry Hahn
RivRon 13


Saturday, March 22, 2014

Book Signing & Reception at the Robert H Jackson Center: March 27th



Thursday March 27th,  4:30 p.m. - 6:30 p.m. 
305 East Fourth Street,  Jamestown NY

A dear friend and a former Executive Director of the Jackson Center, Rolly Kidder is set to celebrate the release of his latest book, Backtracking in Brown Water.

Rolly is a Navy Vietnam War veteran, serving as a Patrol Boat Officer with River Division 535 in the Mekong Delta in 1969-70. He won the Writer's Digest Best Life Stories Award for his first book A Hometown Went to War, an oral history of 37 WWII veterans.  Rolly's second historical non-fiction work, Backtracking in Brown Water, journeys back to the rivers and canals of South Vietnam and recounts life on Patrol Boats in the heart of the Mekong Delta. Books will be available for purchase the evening of the event and The Jackson Center will be a local distributor of the book.

This event is proudly sponsored by the Robert H. Jackson Center and the Chautauqua Region Community Foundation.  For more information please contact the Robert H. Jackson Center at 716-483-6646.  Find Directions here.




Below is a brief video of Rolly introducing the original mission of the Jackson Center when he was the Executive Director.

 



Rolly and wife Jane wrapping up a very successful event at the Jackson Center - Thank you all! 

Tuesday, March 11, 2014

Letter of Paul Rost

Rolland,

It is with great thanks and appreciation that I write you about your book. After receiving it, I had held off reading it until I could focus on it completely.

Thank you. Your words about my brother Jimmy while sad to read, and again reminding me of our loss, are also comforting in that I saw that the Jim you knew was the Jimmy I remember so fondly. He was a very special person to us. For years after his death, my eyes would water whenever the Star Spangled Banner would be sung at an event. It reminded me of his service to our great country that our flag represents and that he served so honorably, yet did not return to be able to enjoy such events. The pain has diminished over time, but is never gone.

Thursday, March 6, 2014

The Firefight Audio


Since publishing the book, I have received a few inquiries about the firefight audio which is found on page 130.

Audio QR Code from Page 130















First of all, the fact that you can listen to this by scanning your smart phone over the bar code is quite remarkable in itself. Again, credit goes to our son, Bart, who suggested doing it. Many people in my generation, including myself, don't even have a smart phone... but my wife, Jane, does. When we got our first copy of the book, she downloaded a free bar code reading app called "qrafter". Then she hit the "scan" command on her phone and took a photo of the bar code. After that, she hit the play button and my voice came on followed by the firefight recording. I couldn't believe it! What Bart had said, was true. With today's technology, you can listen to an audio recording while reading a book!

The recording itself came from a tape recorder that I had taken on one of the multi-day patrols on the Vinh Te Canal. (It was one of those small, cassette tape recorders that I had purchased in a Navy PX someplace.) While in Vietnam, I periodically sent tapes home to friends and family instead of writing a letter. On this occasion, I used it to actually record some of the "goings on" on the Vinh Te Canal. The first vignnette includes some background discussion between myself and a boat captain of an airstrike he had recorded a prior night. The second occurrs on another night when I turned the recorder on during a firefight between the enemy and the RAG boats.

Fortunately, when I got back to the YRBM 20 after this patrol, I made some copies of the tape. One of them got to an Admiral who queried Mike Connolly (see page 125) about it. Apparently, the tape found its way around because when I was writing the book, Larry Forbes sent me a copy of it, now on a CD. (I believe that Larry had gotten it from Joe Petro or one of the other patrol officers.) When Bart told me that we could make it available to readers through this bar code technology, I sent him the tape (CD), this time with my voice as a lead-in describing what the reader is listening to.

All of this is to say, that getting this tape into a book was a joint effort. I could never have figured out how to do it on my own. However, now that it is done, I am pleased with the outcome. You can write about the emotion, fear and chaos of a firefight, but when you can listen to it – it takes on a whole new dimension.

Rolly Kidder


The audio file is repeated here:




Also - if you'd like to try the QR code link, scan the code below with any free QR code reader app (i.e, i-nigma, qrafter, scan).  The direct link to the US Archives is: http://goo.gl/atxkzG

Monday, March 3, 2014

Vincent Tobin, retired attorney, New York State Power Authority

Book Review: Backtracking in Brown Water



Rollie,

Just finished your book, and I thought it was terrific. It captured the reality and all of the conflicts of the Vietnam war in a way that I found unique and moving. I'm normally not big on military history, but this was wonderful --I'm going to buy a few more copies to give to friends who went through it.

While reading it I was continually haunted by the fact that at the very period you were there, late '69 and early '70, I was finishing college in Washington and participating nearly every weekend in some sort of antiwar activity -- our house would be a beehive of activity with friends and complete strangers in town for the latest demonstration. We gave virtually no thought to the realities and experiences of the men on the ground over there, which I regret.

Saturday, March 1, 2014

Introducing "Recollections of Veterans"


We have established a page called “Recollections of Veterans” for Vietnam veterans to post their own remembrances of what they experienced in Vietnam. I expect that many of these comments will be made by those who served in the Mekong Delta area of the country, or they may be observations related to memories which were sparked by reading the book. We welcome veterans to also send photos of themselves along with a description of their experiences. My experiences, as related in the book, are only a part of the story. Readers will be interested in the perspective of others who served.

Rolland Kidder